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The Seattle Tun is an open pub meet for Seattle Area science fiction
fans who like to socialize, talk, argue, gossip, and drink beer with
like-minded fen. The Tun meets on the Second Sunday of every
month. Currently we're at the Third Place Pub, though we're always
open to brilliant suggestions for new venues with good beer, lots of
flexible seating, and noise levels low enough to allow conversation.
If you expect to be in Seattle on Second Sunday, and would enjoy a
bit of beer-lubricated conversation on a wide range of topics,
possibly including Science Fiction, please feel free to drop by and
join in.


Where: The Pub @ Third Place, Ravenna
6504 20th Ave. NE, Seattle, WA 98115
Pub: (206) 523-0217
When: Sunday, September 14
4:30 pm - 6:30 pm or later

The Pub is open 3-10pm on Sundays; NB that the bookstore upstairs
closes at 7:00 pm so if you need to service your Jones for books, or
want to exit by the bookstore door, you need to do it before 7:00.
Otherwise it's just a quick nip 'round the block from the pub door
to the bookstore parking lot.

Date: 2008-09-12 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daystreet.livejournal.com
Maybe do a little Obama outreach? Sign up some volunteers?

Sorry. I've been harassing my relatives out in Seattle today to get on the anti-McCain bandwagon. It's that whole swing state thing going on. Bit obsessed at the moment. These kids are in line for the draft when Palin starts the war with Russia...

Sorry. Sorry. No business mentioning it. Have a lovely time. Used to live not too far from Ravenna, myself. Is it Ravenna Place? That cool curvy street that runs down that hill? Anyway. Have a good time.

Date: 2008-09-12 09:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com
Well, I think we'd be hard pressed to find any Tun regulars who aren't already *on* the anti-McCain bandwagon, that's all. If I were going to do Obama outreach I probably should have done it while I was in Eastern Washington where all the rednecks Republicans live. One of the striking things about the drive was the way we were seeing Rossi (Republican running for governor) billboards and yard signs everywhere until we got onto the Colville reservation. Then it was Gregoire signs all the way.

Date: 2008-09-12 10:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com
Or is this more what you had in mind?

Date: 2008-09-12 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daystreet.livejournal.com
That works. Or getting people to give money. Or anything to keep WA from going to McCain/Palin. If it's true you govern like you campaign, I shudder to think of McCain in the WH (among many other reasons, of course...)

Date: 2008-09-12 10:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] akirlu.livejournal.com
Seriously? I think there's a near-zero chance of Washington going to McCain/Palin. I'm not saying it isn't worth talking to people who are on the fence, I just don't feel that vibe here at all. At least in Seattle, we're about as latte-drinking, Volvo-driving as you could ask...

Date: 2008-09-12 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daystreet.livejournal.com
Well, you're a better judge than I am, and I'm sure he'll take King County and Whatcom County and such like. But it looks way too close for my taste in the polls. And anyway... campaign money given in WA can be used in OH or PA or such like. Money is *always* good.

Tell 'em it's in the Name of Science. :)

Washington polling

Date: 2008-09-13 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hal-obrien.livejournal.com
Alas, things are not as bright as they might appear. From Horse's Ass (http://www.horsesass.org/?p=6875):

"A new Rasmussen poll gives Ross a 52% to 46% lead. The poll of 500 likely voters was taken on September 10 and has a margin of error of ±4.5%.

This is the second consecutive polling lead for Rossi. A few days ago, a SurveyUSA poll gave Rossi a 48.2% to 47.4% lead over Gregoire.

...

Is the lead real? There is a reasonable possibility it is—the probability of two consecutive statistical outlier polls is pretty small.

On the other hand, consider this: both recent polls also show McCain doing better against Obama than anyone could have reasonably expected. The Rasmussen poll in Washington state gives Sen. Barack Obama a narrow 49% to 47% lead over Sen. John McCain, and A few days earlier, a SurveyUSA poll offered Obama a 49% to 45% lead over McCain.

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